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De: chaiwe mushauko [ Profil ]
Sujet: Re: [ayan] AYAN getting back to action!
Envoyé: Oct 9th, 2009 - 17:01:45

  Hi everyone!!!

Masi i must comment the relationship between you and your son is
adorable. you are a great dad!! it puts a smile on my face. God
Bless!!!

Manuella bellow is my input, it took me soon time coz i am in the
middle of the 1st phase of my exams and had to study. Hope you and
everyone finds my contributions meaningfull.


MEANINFUL YOUTH PARTICIPATON
I am glad to be reading this paper on youth participation once more;
it is one of the papers that Youth Vision Zambia has provided for its
employees and advocates in its numerous workshops on the topic of
youth participation in national issues. I will therefore raise
similar argument that was raised in our discussions.
It is interesting that the issue of youth participation was tackled in
this way; this paper to me saves not only as a document of awareness
of the need for increased youth participation in decision making, but
it in itself allows institutions, organisations, governments and the
youth themselves a chance to understand the relevance of youth
participation and can therefore be past off as a very beneficial 4
page advocate tool.
It is important that we realise as young people that as we push for
meaningful youth participation, we also look into what framework
sittings we wish to have representation and participation in and
highlight those that have since been opened for us (and this could be
a good basis for Senegal’s discussions this December). That way we
know how successful we have been in the achievement of youth
participation in various sectors. It is also important for us to
establish among ourselves were young people with potential are found
in which areas of society so that we are able to lobby for this cause
with concrete evidence that in such societies young people with
potential are present and are very willing to participate in various
disciplines. We have to look critically at the inventory of sectors
that are lacking youth participation that we need to work and push
for. We need to also establish sectors, societies, institutional
frameworks that have an abundance of young people from where we can
tap good potential such as youth groups and youth NGO’s i.e young
people from these sectors can be identified to take part in government
decision making bodies.
A few questions that i have personally and that i think need to be
addressed in order to make the issue of youth participation clear are
that:
Many sectors or institutions deny young people a chance to participate
in certain frameworks by setting a high academic bar!! For example, in
order for individuals to attend a certain constitution assembly, they
must have an academic C.V not less that Masters or PHD and so you find
that that automatically rules out youth of a certain age group and a
certain academia. So the question arises, what criteria is used in the
selection of representatives under each sector, what education level,
experience, what job positions, titles or level of activity are
necessary for every sector of participation, should there be a set
standard??? Should the bar be so high?? Should there be a reduction in
achievement levels for youth participants in comparison with adult
participants???
Another question that we must ask is, How do we hold certain sectors
accountable to the fact that they deny youth participation in their
programmes?? Should there be a law that must suggest that every
government must have at least 20% youth participation as we have with
gender and female representation??



YOUNG WOMEN AND HIV
From my last visit to Senegal i realised one thing from general
observation and from conversing with some of the locals that helped me
understand the differences in gender issues between southern African
countries and West African countries. Most gender issues in Africa
arise from the cultural identity and religious identities of the
people. It is common knowledge that HIV prevalence rates are higher in
southern Africa than they are in West Africa. From what i learnt the
fact that most of West Africa is dominated by the Islamic religion
which puts a certain moral signature on peoples attitudes towards
sexual issues, it discourages with stiff punishment sexual encounter
outside marriage and therefore imparts a fear in the young people.
Islam also reduces single young male and female social interaction and
gives them little chance to engage in sexual relationships, while on
the other hand, southern Africa is more Christian and not only so, is
more open to the rights of people towards their choice of religious.
Here we see that there is more male-female relationships than are
premised without the complete watchful eye of the community and so
young people have more open and therefore increased sexual relation,
thereby seeing an increase in the HIV/AIDS spread. On the other hand,
we see more of a polygamist culture in west Africa in that a young
man is allowed up to 2-4,5 or even 6 wives and this starts to pose a
danger to these young people, once one person contracts the virus in
that marriage, all 6 fall prey. In southern Africa, polygamy is not as
common as west Africa, but is only known to exist within a few ethnic
groups.
Therefore, The questions that i feel this paper ‘THE FACTS OF LIFE –
YOUNG WOMEN, HIV AND SRHR’ has not addressed and would be important
for discussion in Senegal are...
1. The influence of Culture on Gender and HIV/ SRHR
2. The influence of Culture on Gender and HIV/ SRHR

YOUNG PEOPLE AND HIV
Laws that prohibit young people under 18 from accessing HIV testing or
health services without parental consent are a major barrier to
reaching young people at risk for infection. Few young people want
their parents to know they are having sex and need an HIV test. – This
is one issue of personal grave concern to me. We speak of young people
often, but the group that most reaches closest to my heart personally
is the one below 18. They are singled out as being in disarray, they
are termed experimental, hey usually receive criticisim from society,
parents and peers, but they must be addressed with caution and we must
look for ways to harmonise this group with its society especially with
issues concerning HIV and AIDS.

So the questions i normally would like addressed are
1. Should there be a separation of approaches in reaching out to
various groups of young people on HIV/AIDS e.g approach on KIDS,
approach on Teens and approach on semi-adults??? How are other
countries that shall participate in the meeting reaching out to each
of these groups of young people??

On a personal note, i have been convicted in thought. When is the best
time to tell a kid who was born with the HIV virus that they actually
have a Virus??? I have strongly been thinking of how to start a
project or kid friendly centre for young kids as young as 3 or
4-10years that might need professional child psychologists to spill
the news to the kids or advise the kids family on how to tell their
kids that they were born positive. How to teach then to live
positively at an early age and how to help prevent the spread and not
be part of the spread. I need your individual thoughts, contributions
and criticisms on this guys, thank you.



CHAIWE

On 10/8/09, masixole ndima wrote:
> Hi guys hope all is well just to say sorry I toke with this was out for to
> days TK was not will but his better now thanks God
>
> Those I very good points Manuela and well thought and I will tell you this
> they got me thinking and talking with my friends and anyone that can think,
> I could not and cant imagine to give a perfect answer or solution to the
> problem or Question but this is what I think: for starts I think I will
> differ from country to country but with that said we need to consider the
> educational levers of our young people, I think we should not assume that
> everyone know and understand what is HIV or what is AIDS therefore I think
> young people need that information because a lot of people, things, the
> media tell as different things, with that said next should be how you get
> and how you prevent HIV and I did not say and AIDS because there are two
> different things and if you prevent HIV you will not get AIDS at all. I
> think it is also important to mention STI/STD, ok I will lets the other guys
> to go on with this point going on to the next one, e to say to implement
> this one
> would be the hardest of the two but with that said I think our NGO would
> have to play a BIG role in this one. So I think word of mouth work but to a
> sateen extend and then come a friend to a friend I mean giving/passing the
> information to someone you know so that they can pass it to someone they
> know and so on, school high or low give them to give to the learners because
> I believe that print media is still powerful because you can read and pass
> on for some else to read and most important I think awareness drives are
> effective when it comes to young people ok before I go no let me give you
> guys a break to read this and to think about it and hopeful comment and say
> what is on your mind and heart about this because we are all in this, have
> fun
>
> Thank you
> Masi and TK
> (yes he did help me on all of this)
>
> Oi pessoal espero que tudo está bem apenas para dizer desculpe eu toke com
> este estava fora para o dia TK não era sua vontade, mas melhor agora graças
> a Deus
>
> Esses pontos que Manuela muito bom e bem pensado e vou dizer-lhe isto que me
> fez pensar e falar com os meus amigos e qualquer um que possa pensar, eu não
> podia e não posso imaginar para dar uma resposta ou a solução perfeita para
> o problema ou questão, mas esta é o que penso: para começar eu acho que será
> diferente de país para país, mas com o que disse é preciso considerar as
> alavancas de educação dos nossos jovens, eu acho que não devemos assumir que
> todos conheçam e compreendam o que é o HIV ou o que é AIDS portanto eu acho
> que os jovens precisam de informação, porque um grande número de pessoas,
> coisas, os meios de comunicação dizer que as coisas diferentes, com o que
> disse seguinte deve ser como você vai chegar e como evitar o HIV e eu não
> disse que ea AIDS, porque não são duas coisas diferentes e se prevenir o HIV
> que você não vai pegar AIDS em tudo. Penso que é também importante mencionar
> IST / DST, ok vou deixa os
> outros caras para continuar com este ponto de ir para a próxima, e dizer
> para implementar este seria o mais difícil dos dois, mas com o que disse
> Penso que a nossa ONG teria de desempenhar um grande papel em um presente.
> Então eu acho que a palavra de boca, mas trabalho para uma sateen estender e
> depois vem um amigo para um amigo Quer dizer dar / passar as informações
> para alguém que você conheça para que eles possam passá-lo para alguém que
> conhecem e assim por diante, o ensino médio ou baixo dar los a dar para os
> alunos porque acredito que a mídia de impressão ainda é poderoso, porque
> você pode ler e passar por alguma outra coisa para ler e mais importante eu
> acho que as unidades de sensibilização são eficazes quando se trata de
> jovens ok antes que eu vá não deixe-me dar vocês uma pausa para ler isto e
> pensar sobre isso e comentar esperançoso e dizer o que está em sua mente e
> do coração sobre isso porque estamos todos no
> mesmo, divirta-se
>
> Obrigado
> masi e TK
> (sim, ele me ajudou em tudo isso)
>
> --- On Mon, 10/5/09, Manuella Donato wrote:
>
>
> From: Manuella Donato
> Subject: Re: [ayan] AYAN getting back to action!
> To: "masixole ndima"
> Received: Monday, October 5, 2009, 2:46 PM
>
>
> Hello Masi!
> That's great that you raise these questions. You may remind this was one of
> our main discussions during the seminar and it is somehow an "open
> point"....
> In my point of view, we have two main questions to start thinking on it: the
> first one is "what kind of information do young people need?" the other one
> is "how they can access that information?"... I guess it will help us to
> think about responsibilities...
>
> I am looking forward to hear more from you!!
>
> best wishes from sunny Recife =)
>
> manuella
>
> 2009/10/5 masixole ndima
>
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>>
>> hi good friends of the soil
>>
>> hope all is good with you and your love one
>>
>> i hope this will work for you Munuella i have been reading the stuff you
>> send to me one by one, so that i can do it all right so i have just
>> finished
>> the one on youth participation, its great to get people started and i
>> think
>> people should just read it with this Question in mind - how to get the
>> youth
>> to know about their Responsibilities because they need to know about it
>> first, how to educate young people about their Rights and
>> Responsibilities,
>> how big of a part do polities play and what is politic responsibility
>>
>> but i do thing its a great paper,
>>
>> ok that is it from me for now, i will be back Ha ha ha HAHAHAHAHa
>>
>> with love
>> masi
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 10/3/09, Manuella Donato  wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Manuella Donato
>> Subject: [ayan] AYAN getting back to action!
>> To: "masixole ndima"
>> Received: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 4:38 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> Message attachments:
>> - http://files.tiggroups.org/88151/Young_People_and_HIV.pdf
>> - http://files.tiggroups.org/88153/Young_Women_and_HIV.pdf
>> - http://files.tiggroups.org/88155/Meaningful_Youth_Participation.pdf
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>> Hello AYAN!
>>
>> I hope you are great and ready to make this group work together again!
>>
>> As you know we faced some barriers to implement the e-course as we had
>> planned. Also the participation in the group was not so active as we
>> imagined before.
>>
>> But it's time to overcome difficulties and turn it into action!
>>
>> We have a propposal for us to develop together this month. Let me explain
>> it
>> to you.
>>
>> Next December we are going to have the second seminar of the project, with
>> participant organizations from other 7 African countries. The seminar will
>> be held in Senegal in partnership with the organizations Les Pioners and
>> Action Enfance.
>> During this seminar we want a representative of AYAN to present the main
>> issues discussed by the group in terms of Youth and HIV/Aids. We have a
>> summary of the discussions we had at the seminar in Joburg, but we want
>> AYAN
>> to go further and present a document on what you think are the priorities
>> of
>> action on Youth and HIV/Aids in Africa.
>> The document will be the base for the second seminar and it will be a good
>> opportunity to build partnership with the other African organizations as
>> well as the International Falcon Movement - Socialist Education
>> International (IFM-SEI), in order to have an joint agenda on Youth and
>> HIV/Aids to advocate worldwide.
>>
>> We are sending attached three factsheets: Young People and HIV; Young
>> Women
>> and HIV; and Meaningful Youth Participation. Feel free to send to the list
>> other sources you would like to use, specially from an African
>> perspective.
>>
>> We will have this first week (5 - 10) to brainstmorm. Share your comment
>> on
>> the documents, bring us new information and data, raise questions...
>> On the following week (11 - 17) you will define the priorities and start
>> to
>> write a draft document. Then (18 - 24) we will finish the document and
>> decide who will be the AYAN representative at the seminar in Joburg. We
>> are
>> sorry we can afford only one person to be there.
>>
>> Please let us know your thoughts on the propposal and feel free to start
>> sharing your thoughts on the documents!
>>
>> Best wishes from Brazil,
>>
>> manuella
>>
>>
>>
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> National Focal Point - Brazil
> Global Youth Coalition on HIV/AIDS
> www.youthaidscoalition.org
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> Ponto Focal Nacional - Brasil
> Coalizão Global de Jovens em HIV/AIDS
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